tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7354418957262058264.post4046501691599007118..comments2024-03-28T10:05:43.509+00:00Comments on Brian O'Donovan (aka BOD): A proposal for how to help transfer of Irish University R&D into local industryBrian O'Donovan (BOD)http://www.blogger.com/profile/10652457466416412942noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7354418957262058264.post-33801018343834736262009-10-01T16:17:53.764+01:002009-10-01T16:17:53.764+01:00@Stephen - I haven't read it yet, but it looks...@Stephen - I haven't read it yet, but it looks interesting so I will soon.Brian O'Donovan (BOD)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10652457466416412942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7354418957262058264.post-71582818814139981572009-09-30T18:27:50.457+01:002009-09-30T18:27:50.457+01:00Have you read "The Triple Helix: University-I...Have you read "The Triple Helix: University-Industry-Government Innovation in Action" by Henry Etzkowitz?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05091310654236242422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7354418957262058264.post-60172553269839034582009-09-30T16:31:58.854+01:002009-09-30T16:31:58.854+01:00@Steve - From your lips to God's ears Brian! ;...@Steve - From your lips to God's ears Brian! ;)<br />I don't know if the man above reads blogs :-D<br /><br />@Aaron - I like your idea of only having a sub-set of the IP flowing into a shared Irish pool which would allow universities to hold back assets that they considered too valuable. This would also get around the fact that in some cases the university would not be free to donate the IP to the shared pool because one or more funding organisations are unwilling.<br /><br />>This would work at a University level but I'm<br />>not sure how it would translate to incentives<br />>for the people at the coal face (grads/staff etc).<br />In my experience the people at the coal face are not the problem because they are thrilled to see their research being used (after all it is the ultimate proof that their work is worthwhile). It is often the senior leaders in the university who have their eyesight impeded by the dollar signs in their eyesBrian O'Donovan (BOD)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10652457466416412942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7354418957262058264.post-21584130823373954412009-09-30T13:05:06.052+01:002009-09-30T13:05:06.052+01:00Hi Brian,
Interesting idea. I wouldn't dism...Hi Brian,<br /> Interesting idea. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand as many would. I agree the Irish Universities aren't well setup to exploit IP generated on a mass-scale but they do have a few shining examples of spin outs (Iona, Changing Worlds) or licenses (Madcow test) and I'm sure it's not too far from their minds that if they were to let the IP flow freely they might miss out on the next Google or Nokia. North American Universities have a culture of endowments from Grads which helps bolster their finances that we don't have here. <br /><br />This fear will probably stop them doing anything as radical as you suggest. <br /><br />To break this tension Universities could pour *some* documented IP into an Irish pool and then get back some jobs based block grant to encourage it. This would work at a University level but I'm not sure how it would translate to incentives for the people at the coal face (grads/staff etc). <br /><br />It would also allow the University to retain specific pieces of what they consider valuable IP. The big bang of all the IP going into a "Irish pool" might too difficult to swallow. <br /><br />One alternate is a culture shift ie. Universities are not profit making enterprises and those who fund the work own the IP. Government pays my salary via block grant, they own the IP (and by extension the Irish people), IRCSET grant holders (government) etc.. etc. EU grants (EU owns it and can vest it back to Irish government). The problem with this is no other country (as far as I know does this) so Universities may loose staff or students etc.<br /><br />Some form of IP pool is worth looking at as I agree too many ideas stay inside the walls and never see industry interest. <br /><br /> Aaron.Aaron Quigleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01745293928111445838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7354418957262058264.post-5789429190021371082009-09-30T12:14:37.422+01:002009-09-30T12:14:37.422+01:00From your lips to God's ears Brian! ;)
Withou...From your lips to God's ears Brian! ;)<br /><br />Without massive scale Universities can't make significant returns off of IP (unfortunately most haven't figured this out yet!) So they can either consolidate or take the path of least resistance and equitably partner. <br /><br />~SteveSteve Gotzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525098058522486338noreply@blogger.com